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  LaRouche Throws You Know a Mirror!!!

  by cellomould in

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  "and when the president of the united states refers to sharon as a man of peace, i'm sure that sharon feels insulted.. "but the point is: why, then, does the united states support this?

  it's not because there's a zionist lobby.

  as a matter of fact, some of the worst anti-semites in the united states, are the so-called pro-armageddon christian fundamentalists.

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  Seems russia has become a junior partner with nato. This is going entirely in the wrong direction, per your dire predictions, eh?

  How so? / You Know
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  DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA

  by You Know in

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  hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.

  the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.

  datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.

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  Englishmen writes:

  This post of his is incredibly weak, his arguments are full of holes and one can sense the bluster from someone who has been severely rattled by what they have seen.

  You are the one doing the blustering. I have been dealing with apostate accusations for years, why would I get disturbed over something on televison? / You Know
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  DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA

  by You Know in

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  hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.

  the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.

  datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.

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  You sound angry and defensive YK.

  FUCK OFF YOU KNOW......

  LOL / You Know
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  DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA

  by You Know in

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  hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.

  the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.

  datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.

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  HACKAW writes:

  Try as you might you forget this show is not for JWs.

  You are mighty confused. My post recognizes that the Dateline production was directed at an uniformed and generally prejudiced public. What gave you the impression that I thought it was intended for a Jehovah's Witness audience? Is there an intelligence problem on your end?

  Its for the public to ensure sick people like yourself don't hurt them

  So then, you freely admit that the intent of the program was to propagandize on behalf of anti-JW apostates in order to persuade the public not to listen to us. Isn't that what I just wrote?

  If the JWs were slandered they would sue Dateline.

  I ought to sue you for slandering me in a public forum by implying that I am a child abuser.

  One final point. You don't f__k with little kids. Understand.

  Basically, when push comes to shove all apostates resort to slander and ridicule in one form or another. All slanderers are imitating the Devil, whose very name means: THE SLANDERER. And, like Jesus said of the apostate Jews in his day, so it is obvious in your case that "you wish to do the desires of your father." / You Know
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  DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA

  by You Know in

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  hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.

  the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.

  datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.

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  As to the recorded message, if you have nothing to hide, then why be concerned.

  You should ask that of Bill Bowen. He is the one who hid the fact that he was secretly recording a conversation that the trusting brother would naturally assume was between two elders. No doubt the conversation was much longer and more detailed than the brief snippet that was aired, so the producers have it in their power to control what they want the public to hear and hid anything that might give the viewer pause to consider any other aspect. It's a totally rigged game and anyone who endorses that sort of underhanded journalism has no interest in truth and really deserves to be victims of the propagandizers. / You Know
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  DATELINE: BLACK ART OF PROPAGANDA

  by You Know in

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  hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.

  the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.

  datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.

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  Hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasn’t craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion. The intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view. Dateline’s presentation of the Watchtower’s child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.

  From the very beginning of the presentation Dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of Jehovah’s Witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we don’t celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the Devil and that we want them all to die. If the programmers had wanted to they could have, for example, highlighted the fact that Jehovah’s Witnesses are known throughout the world for our peculiar beliefs that war and killing are wrong and that thousands of Jehovah’s Witnesses have gone to prison rather than violate the law of Christ. Obviously, the media mind-control apparatus had no interest in presenting the viewers with an accurate picture of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  The most shocking and disgusting aspect of the Dateline program, in my opinion, was the airing of a snippet of a private conversation that was recorded without the victim’s knowledge. Such underhanded smear tactics should be offensive to all people. The government, for instance, has to get a court order to tap into private phone conversations of suspected criminals, because in a nation that ostensibly values personal freedoms it is generally recognized that people should have the freedom not to have their private conversations taped without their knowledge and played back in order to vilify or entrap them. Not only did Bill Bowen reveal himself to be the lowest sort of slithering weasel who was willing to violate all accepted standards of ethical behavior in that regard, when he used his position as a trusted elder calling Bethel about a confidential case in order to gather damning information, the Dateline producers were all too willing to abuse their power by crossing that boundary as well.

  Probably the most significant aspect of the Dateline program is the influence of apostates upon the production. The Armageddon illustration from the Watchtower’s brochure of horrified people falling into a crevice was obviously supplied to the Dateline producers by apostate JWs in order to inflame public opinion. And the absurd spin on disfellowshipping was absolutely ridiculous. First, the show presents disfellowshipping as a fate worse than death in order to outrage people that the abuse victim was disfellowshipped. But, later, the program admits that child abusers were kicked out also, but that they were later welcomed back. “How dare they extend mercy!” So, as apostates are prone to do, both sides of the issue are used in an accusation, whereby disfellowshipping is portrayed as an atrocity, and not disfelowshipping or reinstatement is also presented as an outrage. It’s a classic apostate technique that is constantly demonstrated in this forum.

  The greatest disservice of Dateline propaganda is the way viewers were left with the suggestion that the next time Jehovah’s Witnesses knock on their door that one of them is probably there to rape their child. Unquestionably, the Watchtower has a child abuse problem. No doubt the Society wishes it had handled things differently. But, the most outrageous aspect of the Dateline production was that the child abuse victims were shamelessly victimized again by those whose obvious intent is to exploit their unfortunate situation in order to persuade the public not to listen to our message the next time we call.

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  THANKS SIMON

  by You Know in

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  i just wanted to take a moment and thank you for providing this forum.

  of course, i realize that it's intended purpose is to serve as a stumbling block for jehovah's witnesses, yet at the same time it also serves as a platform for me to defend my faith in a public forum.

  over the years i have appreciated the opportunity provided by this and other forums to confront and refute various challenges that apostates have presented to our precious faith.

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  144,000: I wrote a piece awhile back that you can consider as an answer to your question regarding what sort of lawlessness Franz is guilty of. / You Know

  > http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10451&site=3
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  YOU KNOW...a moment please?

  by FRUSR8TD in

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  to date i can honestly boast that my apostate enemies have failed to present any challenge which i have not been able to refute using the word of my god.. ok while i am not an apostate (never set foot in a kh)...i did have a talk with an elder with some evidence that though the gb does not claim to be inspired....they have in fact done just that.

  i could see the wheels in his head trying to explain this away as he read it about 15 times over...in the end he just changed the subject in classic jw form.

  here is what i showed him..... july 1 1943 watchtower.

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  Does the above information/article prove without a doubt that the WTBTS has indeed made claims to being inspired?

  Briefly, The Watchtower isn't claiming to be inspired, but they are claiming to have authority over God's household. There is a difference. And the having of such authority is scriptural. But, the flip side of that is that Jehovah will hold them accountable. For example, Isaiah 3:12 says: "As for my people, its task assigners are dealing severely..." Now, the issue as far as Jehovah is concerned, is not that there are those who are in the position of task assigners, but rather those who are in that position are dealing harshly with Jehovah's people. / You Know
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  THANKS SIMON

  by You Know in

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  i just wanted to take a moment and thank you for providing this forum.

  of course, i realize that it's intended purpose is to serve as a stumbling block for jehovah's witnesses, yet at the same time it also serves as a platform for me to defend my faith in a public forum.

  over the years i have appreciated the opportunity provided by this and other forums to confront and refute various challenges that apostates have presented to our precious faith.

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  LOL / You Know
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  GET READY TO MEET YOUR GOD!

  by You Know in

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  get ready to meet your god o israel, is no doubt a meaningless phrase to those who have no fear of god.

  those who in their presumptuousness imagine that there will not be a day when jehovah settles accounts with his people can only be described as faithless and apostate.

  but, for those who fear god the prospect of jehovahs impending judgment both fills one with dread and awe.

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  but is it the truth

  No / You Know